Option to add/notAdd objectVaariables to objectGroup doesnt work

[JayB_Games]

When i create a object group and add an object there is a checkbox for if you want to add the object variables to the group. this doesnt work because no matter if i check it or not it adds the variables to the group. i dont want that tho🐸. also when i delete the variables inside of the group it deletes them for the object too

I tried to reproduce it in other projects. same there too. here is what i did:

• make an object
• add a variable to object
• make a group and then add the object to it

here are some screenshots because i dont know why i should share the project files, like it said in the template, for this one

hope it worked with the images because it only shows random text here

[Keith_1357]

I tried in on the mobile version. I had mixed results.

The first time, it worked as expected depending on the state of the checkbox. I repeated the same process and it continued to work. Until it didn’t.

I don’t know what changed but as stated, the object variables were created for every object regardless of the state of the checkbox.

There does seem to be some inconsistency.

[davy]

This check box only matters when creating a group, not when adding new objects on an existing group. This is why it is only in the group creation dialog and not the group editor.

[JayB_Games]

okay so how do i make it so there are no variables for the group then? i tried jsut creating the group first and adding the objects after that but it still didnt work as i wanted it too. i dont get
it

edit: the rhing is i just remember it beeing the case that usualy there is a way to not add variables into the group. and i dont need them in the group but its not like smth doesnt work because of them. but still how come i cant find any way to create a group without it taking the object variables

[davy]

Groups don’t have variable, they are the variables shared by all the objects of the group. If your objects don’t have any shared variable, you won’t see any in the group.

[JayB_Games]

okay got it. so i just missrememberd how it worked and got confused for no reason lol. should i delete the topic?

[davy]

Topics help people with similar questions there is no reason to delete them.

[Keith_1357]

I’m wondering if part of the confusion is that it only asks if you want to combine the object variables when the group is first created. Because if you later add objects to the group, it doesn’t have a checkbox and the newly added objects seem to get the shared variables added to them.

I’m complety in favor of objects within a group having the same variables. That’s the only way that you can can use variable events for those variables using the group name.

But I realize there might be times that if the objects aren’t similar but you still want to be able to do something like hide them all with 1 action that you might not want to change the variables. It’s easier to handle objects with a minimal amount of variables. Why add unrelated variables.

Maybe this part belongs in another post. Maybe the issue is that when additional objects are added there’s no checkbox or popup that allows you to decide if you want to add the existing common object names.

[davy]

@Keith_1357

I’m wondering if part of the confusion is that it only asks if you want to combine the object variables when the group is first created. Because if you later add objects to the group, it doesn’t have a checkbox and the newly added objects seem to get the shared variables added to them.

It’s indeed something we considered but it would likely make all the variables in the group disappear which can be even more confusing.

Also, variables added to the new object take a lot less time to remove manually if you don’t want them rather than adding them manually if you do.

When you’re editing a group, you have access to the variables. The variables are only added to the objects when you close the dialog. If you ask not to copy variables, when you add new variables, wouldn’t they be added to the new objects? even to the objects added before adding the variable? So when you go back to the group editor, you don’t see the variables you just add but still most objects have it.