It has very few features and does not work very realistically and correctly. I’m tired of arguing with everyone. But this physics is weak. It’s fine in other engines. And if you use platformer and physics, you get an indescribable mess. And also about unity. He is a huge king of engines, the works of worthless Google will not defeat him! 2d physics is weak and please don’t argue! Okay, let’s get back to the initial topic. I’m not against AI as long as it doesn’t interfere, but I don’t want the engine to crash. I see almost everyone hates AI. And I need this engine to work. I really wish I had unity or something cool! But unfortunately only this engine.
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By the way, a Google fan. Google Chrome stealthily downloads you a 4GB local version of Gemini. Many people already know this on the Internet. Google wants to go bankrupt, but so far it has not succeeded. Now he has come up with a way to bankrupt himself!
For example
BUT that is not the point here
Point is both 2d and 3d are the same
So either both of them suck or they are both good
I haven’t tried 3D yet. I also did 2D physics with billiards. Sometimes the ball bounces and sometimes it sticks. Using add force to the position, the problem is how to slow down the ball…
And then, like a madman, he flies into the pocket at a speed of more than 2000!
Funny cause i totally disagree with you
Your opinion here does not come from concern for other users
But from biased opinion on removing somethingWe have integrated Piskel
I think Pisekl is very poor image editor
And ppl should use libersprite which is free or GIMP or any free online image editor out thereAnd that is exactly what im suggesting to ppl when i see they use Piskel
But i would never imagine asking for removal of Piskel from gdevelop if i do not have something in return
I won’t be able to adapt libresprite GIMP or any other image editor into gdevelop so its built inSo me asking to remove piskel so ppl are forced to use anything else
Does not come from the fact i want ppl experience to be better
But from fact i do not like how limited piskel is
I say keep it but use something else if you can
If you don’t need to use it and its just there then we should not careThen you try to hide your argument behind
Well ppl will see “gdevelop free open source no code … AI”
And they will leave
GOOD let them leave
Cause if they cannot read that AI is optional and its just there where they don’t need to use it
Then i don’t see them as valuable assets to this community
TONS of us did not ever use that AI from gdevelop we even don’t like it
But we are more than aware some ppl may want to use it so we prefer to keep it there for them
If it helps them and do stuff we won’t do for such ppl then that is only for the good
Same with piskel
I won’t cut spritsheet into individual images for every other user
If they can do that with pisekl then i am happy we have piskel even if i don’t like piskelYou or any1 from this topic will NOT sit and help every single user here
Or even try to answer all questions you will see here or on discord
How can you even advocate for removing something that would do it?
Something that can help someone get further with their projects?
Neither you nor any1 advocating for removing AI will not constantly supply money to gdevelop which AI would generateYou are not acting in best interest of users
But only yourself
Cause you think AI is bad and you do not want to scare off ppl who see AI as something bad
And what about ppl who see AI as something good?
What about ppl who see AI as their last resort of help cause neither me neither you neither any1 else was able to help them?You can try and justify your motives all day and all night
I will not be able to see in it anything else than being selfish
And being bad actor against ppl who may find this feature useful and helpfulAI is not forced AI is not mandatory
AI is totally optional
Day 1 when gdevelop will force us to use AI to make games
I will not stand next to you
I will stand in front of you and hide you behind my back and go attack gdevelop for such decision alone with worst words i can think of
But until that day i cannot even imagine trying to advocate for removing something that can help someoneAnd allow me to repeat
You are concerned for word “AI” will scare of users from gdevelop seeing it on their main page as part of description of what gdevelop is?
And you genuinely do not care for ppl which it may attract?
The revenue it can generate?Again its optional so?
On top of that
Imagine AI in general will not disappear from internet
Right now gdevelop have chance to have their own AI bot trained to answer gdevelop related questions in better way than any other chat AI
So maybe for you gdevelop is doing itself harm for having AI
Now imagine how much harm it would do to itself by dropping it
There are already AI maniacs who see some software do not have AI and they see it as old trash they will not touch
And best part
Wanna guess who trained that AI you want to get rid off so much?
I gonna give a tip
His nickname rhymes with DouhYou know how i know you and ppl like you don’t have good intentions?
Cause you are not fighting/requesting/demanding gdevelop to CLEARLY WITH ALL CAPS LETTERS write that AI is optional
And can be totally ignored
Nah you ppl are advocating for removing it
You do not want to fix problem
Nah you are here to advocate for solution that would appeal to you and ppl like you
And not would make everyone happy and doing as little harm as possible> Blockquote
Well, you compared it! This is earth and sky! AI drives everyone away and there is no benefit from it except that it will accelerate the collapse of the company in order to please other companies. Squeak helps to create an asset and does not drive away! In short, you keep saying the same thing, but others don’t understand!
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Did he just hit the jackpot?
Ok he did
I found this just by accident (to be fair it was post next to this one)
DA WAT?
I think he did hit the jackpot
I mean to each their own ig
I for one don’t think the physics are weak and work pretty well plus if you got a problem with it can’t you just make your own physics thing or modify the extension?
That’s thousands of lines of code! I don’t know much about code.
Who hit the jackpot? Well, I worked with 3D, but I quit. Physics worked well during this time, but it was a light game. But I haven’t fully tested 3D. It’s not mine.
I’m tired of these topics, let’s talk about something else! We started with useless and unprofitable artificial intelligence, and ended up with something that is unclear. That’s it, I won’t be writing any more comments. As you wish! Bye!!! Sorry, I wrote it in Russian.
There are several recent reviews that mention using the AI and/or running out of credits. If some of those people are buying more credits or subscriptions then it’s a source of income for GDevelop and explains why they keep pushing it.
We don’t have access to GDevelop’s internal numbers to know how much the AI is being used or how much revenue it generates so we have to infer usage by public reviews.
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Trust me we don’t mind it being like an assistant or like 3rd party thing to help fix an issue or give you a way to implement a feature you’re looking to add, but don’t how or a way to.
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The push for saying “AI Powered Engine” is too forward. People like Kenny pulling out of supporting GDevelop due to it is a massive reality hit, please keep the humble open source face.
I subscribe to support the engine, not for the AI features and not to have the desktop start-up “Create, Learn ect” page have a “Wallet” in my face, let us toggle it off to have also no reference of anything $$ related on the homepage, same as the AI, a simple toggle, no other engine has so many paid options in your face on every page of the engine landing page. I am referring to when you open the desktop app etc.
Note - I find the assistant very handy regarding documentation, but please someone on the development team, please look to give us a "Turn off advertised templates, courses, tokens and wallet missions off in the engine startup pages (Create, Learn, etc.)
Frustrating to see each time, and I know you can set the engine to load the last project. Not the point. On topic, AI has a handy place, but the forward push for it being an “AI powered Engine” is a distorted look for a Construct competitor and an open source project.
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The toggling of homepage and interface elements would be a cool compromise. I don’t mind the credit missions thing, I racked up like $10 worth of credit just by following their social media and leaving feedback on a handful of games
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Genuinely you know how terrible I look when I recommend my friends gdevelop and they read that first line? It’s not even “AI powered” the AI is an optional thing you can use when coding your game it gives off the wrong impression that it’s a ripoff of cursor. Here’s the first reaction from a succesful developer that was stating how clunky his current engine is he’d rather stick with it.
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Yupp, if AI were there when I first started looking at GDevelop I definitely wouldn’t stick around to even look at it properly. To me, and it seems that I am hardly alone, “AI” plastered right front and center is something to push me away from a product rather than draw me towards it.
This current phase of AI is beginning to smell like the NFT moment with cryptos… The sooner GDevelop divests from it, particularly as the main selling point, the better. If they keep at it for too long they risk popping along with the whole bubble.
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It attracts the wrong crowd, the crowd that’ll vibe code and complain about the ai not doing what they want until some new techbro fad comes out and they all leave, while the cool game developers THAT ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD GAMES decide to not touch gdevelop with a ten-foot pole and will rather stick with ancient game engines.
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I want people to give me a list of 4 vibe-coded games released during this lifetime that have either gone viral for being very good, or have been remembered through the years for their quality.
Originally I wanted to ask for 10 but I’m thinking of being generous and lowering it down, because what better way to back up the argument than providing actual examples of generative ai playing a big role in the development process of something very good.
It’s been years since GenAI started being popular so there’s gotta be a few.
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Agreed, many of my artist-centred friends won’t touch it on principle of it flaunting “AI-Powered”, and many have said they may as well pay for Construct 3 as why would a easier engine need to focus on AI, unless it’s pure revenue, which is a shame. I think they need to focus on open-source branding, encourage subscriptions for cloud services to support the team while improving the UI/UX, and by all means trim down the start-up pages or give us a clean toggle to have it moved out of sight. Hell, if they had a Patreon I would subscribe to support them.
It’s becoming a hard sell. I would love to know what the developers’ thoughts are on this, the core team that is, hopefully our thoughts aren’t in complete vain as I do love the engine and want to see it grow in the right direction.
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