And you are constantly signing your messages
https://forum.gdevelop.io/guidelines
Do you really get warnings?
I wonder for what?
BTW this forum is for us to talk and no one needs to read anything here
So i wonder where is logic behind your message?
I thought that was an unnecessary comment from Desmond too. I know you love to stir things up …but there’s no need for anyone to hurl personal insults about. I think this has been a good thread and it’s an important discussion on a divisive subject…so let’s keep it going!
Love can be 100 percent genuine too zero x
I know, I’m sorry, but at this point i cannot take ZeroX4 anymore, so im removing my filter. I tried mercy, i tried just being neutral and he mentioned ME instead, so whats left huh?
Yeah it can but i don’t come here for love
Way too many users love me than i would wish for
And you are missing the point
I am talking about users who pretend
And that is perfect example of it
I wonder would it be ok for me to punch ppl in da face in real life then say sorry and expect ppl to just forgive me
And then for them to believe i am nice and not gonna punch them again
Again i don’t even need to try hard to abolish what some users say and make fun out of it along the way
But then i wonder am i making fun of it?
Or they make fun of themselves by saying what they say?
Kinda paradox here
Do you know what Albert Einstein would have said:
The Universe is infinite as well the human stupidity although for the first, nobody is sure!
Meditate on this and excuse me for my bad English: I have the fault of being French!
Shoot i didn’t know choppa boy got them sticks
I am reading your messages same as other users here and i deeply mediate on some things being infinite
Very deeply
And and more and more i believe its not universe
BTW Davy and Bouh are also french i did not see any issue with their english so idk what being french have anything to do here?
Be nicer to each other, you are drifting off-topic, and there is no need to take jabs at one another to show who is wrong about the guidelines.
Enjoy the fresh air outside with this great 8-hour delay.
Just for the record, I find it much harder to use AI with GDevelop’s event system than with any code-based engine. It’s one of the reasons why I just ignore it and don’t even notice it’s there until I see this thread.
honestly from everything i’ve seen of you, this is not to spark arguments or to go into mindless insults, but you have acted very immature not just about this but a lot of other things in the past. i can see how the other side(s) can have also acted that way, but i do think you’re the main trigger of it. i’m not saying this to bash you for 0 reason, but you need to start acting more like an adult and stop acting so superior. the way you word things with “people love me” and essentially threatening to get these people who “love you” to come here and harass anyone who opposes you? i think it’s quite immature
i see you quite a lot when i’m looking for help online in gdevelop bug fixes, and it’s ridiculous how childish you act about things sometimes. i’m not saying this to just go off at you, i’m saying this so you can take what i’ve said and use it to better yourself.
when i’ve been reading through this forum, i’ve seen good points on either side, but the most convincing part of their point is when people act civil about things. the worst thing you can do if you want to get people on your side is act immaturely about it.
i hope you can better yourself and stop acting like this in civil discussions. if you want people to treat you with respect, then treat them with respect. good day.
Listen…this is the last ill say on this matter.
Did you not know mentioning my topic and talking about me is going to notify me and warrant a response?
Next…You don’t know English. Nobody can understand what you’re saying, and I personally can’t understand most of your arguments, as do others. So if you really believe you weren’t trying to insult me, then nobody believes you anyway.
Nobody in this argument has sided with you, you know that right?
I ask of you, please, leave me alone. The first time this happened, you insulted my ability to read (again!), I tried being civil, and that only made you angrier. I tried messaging you with mercy, I tried to understand why you acted this way, and you didn’t respond. I tried being neutral, and now you’ve started this.
And guess what, ZeroX4? I forgive you.
I bet you didn’t expect that.
Others may not forgive you, you may not forgive me for whatever I possibly could’ve done.
But lets please, move in our own directions. I don’t care what direction you go in, just make it different from mine.
Even till now, i don’t understand what your original reply was about. You were talking about IQ, supposedly making fun of what i said, and using me as an example. Thats what it looks like to me, and others.
Now goodbye, leave me be.
Well done, DesmonDev, I respect your mature decision.
@ZeroX4, you need to be more polite. You’re indispensable when you need to help someone with a game. We really need you on the forum, but your messages are just scaring other members away.
You wrote that @DesmonDev’s topic is scaring people away from gdevelop, but your communication style is scaring people away from you.
Everyone makes mistakes. @DesmonDev made a mistake by writing about AI, but it’s important to admit your mistakes. @DesmonDev has acknowledged his mistake. Everyone makes mistakes, even Einstein, Leonardo da Vinci, and so on.
@cubeboi7070 OK will be more mature
Just kidding i never will
@DesmonDev Only person you should forgive here is yourself
And idk how you can say something about having OCD yet seems you are not aware you can block ppl?
Cause if not i can teach you how to do so
I have some experience in that
@kotiks Are you genuinely concern about scaring ppl away from gdevelop?
Cause if so then i wonder why you are not in DesmonDev topic trying to change how he word himself
So he don’t scare ppl off rather than coming to me?
You are perfectly aware there are ppl who are against AI and will take anything negative about it as valid argument even if it does not make any sense so?
Do you really care or you just here to act like you care?
And that is serious question to which i know answer already
Since its the same reason why DesmonDev did not make feature request but instead just went complaining
There is huge difference when mistake is made by mistake and when its made on purpose
How someone saying something wrong is tolerated but me pointing it out is bad is just beyond me
Anyway same as in DesmonDev case i always use ppl own words and logic against them
I am not jumping in and saying “hahah stfu noob you know nothing” nah
I show how what they say makes no sense using their own words
So question here is am i not polite cause i point it out?
Or they are not polite cause they say what they say?
Because we are heading into direction where if i would punch you and say “i was angry i apologize” magically it would make everything ok
But then if someone would say to me “hey how about you punch your wife and apologize to her and let’s see how that will end up for you” then that person would be bad for pointing it out?
Like showing what i did/say in other light so we can have more clear perspective on the situation in question?
Anyway Bouh set cooldown here
And is softly implying we should stop cause we are making off-topic
And let’s face it
He is right
So i gonna leave you guys with whatever you want to say ignoring it along the way
And i will be back when something related to AI will emerge here
I hope you guys had fun here this time
I for sure did
Until next time <(‘.’< )
Honestly, I see GDev’s ai as Clippy with a little extra step.
Sure, the doom, gloom and dread of it all is there just because of those two letters. But the funny thing is that it literally operates off itself. Mostly through the documentations and legally usable assets. so it doesn’t even steal anything like the ones people very easily antagonize, as far as I know.
And the other funny thing is, the ones afraid give gdev’s ai too much credit(pun intended) when it A. doesn’t work well enough to make a full-fledged game just like that. I’ve already seen many AI bros come and go as they complain about how limited gdev’s ai is compared to something like Claude. They can’t vibe-code with this engine.
long story short, yeah I get what you mean, had that thing disabled and it’s like it never existed. Wish other companies could do the same(looking at you Microsoft >
)
I came back because of some users here ppl i care about got hurt
And i gonna do something about it instead of listen to you
I gonna put whole stories in spoilers so its easier to read but in spoilers you gonna have them all so you can review them yourself instead or relaying on my words
Miche (on forums) Mostafa (on discord) same person
Was pretending on forums to be interested in some new multiplayer extension
On discord it turned out he is the creator of it and pretended to be someone else to advertise his extension
When i pointed out its the same user
He found me doing something wrong (for exposing him) and not him (for pretending)
Like its my fault that i revealed he is pretending to get attention
And i wonder how you are any different?
You see me doing something wrong for pointing out other ppl actions
And not them actually doing something wrong and doing anything about it
Soesuke who made animated tilemaps and was advertising it left and right each day (cause he wanted sells since he priced it at 3 euros)
Insulting other ppl work in and overall not behaving any good
In this case cause of some of YOU i was having 2nd thoughts
Maybe i am too harsh maybe i should not do it and let such ppl just be?
So i left him alone instead of confronting him
And that was mistake
I should not listen to what you say
He went onto insulting other users even other user mom
His forum post (where even now he is behaving like he should not)
https://forum.gdevelop.io/t/animatable-tilemap/60246/19?u=zerox4
Discord link to message Discord
Screenshot
Other users about Soesuke behavior
Link
Discord
Screenshots
I am using such ppl own words and actions to point out that they are doing something wrong
Not mine but theirs actions/words
So you coming after me are in fact having problem with me pointing what someone did/say
And not with the what they actually did/say
Where you are doing nothing about users in questions
I will never again stay idle cause you say something cause then ppl i care about gets hurt
And sad part about it is you could do it way better than me
Yet you do ABSOLUTELLY NOTHING
Its easy to come after me and tell me to be polite when you are not being polite
Look closely
I never felt any shame to admit in front of unity godot unreal or any other engine devs that i am gdevelop users
But i feel great shame that ppl like you are allowed to be here and you are left with feeling you are doing nothing wrong
Where in reality all you can do is complain instead of doing something to improve this community
Read this carefully
I wish for you that someone would say something like that about you
That it would be great loss if you would not be here anymore
But i doubt it will ever happen considering how you behave since that needs to be earned
Cause i noticed some pattern that most of you who have so much to say about me
Contributes to this community next to nothing
I from almost 4 years wake up every morning and solve ppl problems to help them complete their games not asking anything in return
Some ppl say some users left gdevelop cause of me
Cool my fault but then it means they could block me they did not and so they were not loyal gdevelop users so like what did we lose?
BUT
Wanna even start to imagine how many users get into gdevelop and bought subscription cause they seen some lunatic who is solving problems of random users every single day?
We can totally even try to compare did i made more ppl leave or stay if you are brave enough
And you do what exactly?
Attack me for pointing out to someone that they did something wrong?
BRAVO you deserve a medal
You can say i am disrespectful all you want
But then look how much respectful you are
I am not golden cow here that should have any better treatment than others don’t get me wrong
You point out to me i am not polite that i am not respectful when im doing what? Pointing out to other ppl they behave bad?
And you are doing what exactly about te fact someone is doing something wrong?
Defending such ppl?
I want to have nothing to do with ppl like you
SHAME is only word i can use here to describe what i feel to you without getting banned
I sincerely apologize for what I did.
I made a mistake when I posted the extension in a confusing way and acted as if I were someone else on the forums, and that was my fault.
I take full responsibility for this action and I am not trying to justify it.
I understand that this may have caused you a bad impression or problems, and that was not my intention.
I apologize again, and I will be more honest and clear in all my future work.
I am sorry about the shape painter tool, that was an oversight by me ( never used it despite using the engine for 4 years now ).
When it comes to tilemaps, what I mean is:
There is no vector support for easily drawing levels ( like for slopes and auto tiling ), as well as a lack for collisions ( like slopes, oneways, etc ), there also is no tag system for custom code on different types of tiles ( you could make a bunch of different custom tilemaps, but it would be much easier if everything was in just one tilemap ).
I do use the update button, but I wish there was a auto preview in the editor. Also, I can barely code in Javascript ( hence why I usually stick to no code engines ), so I wouldn’t even know how to do something “as simple” as making a custom shader… But what I meant was a sprite shader ( e.g. a brick break affect or player smoke, but made with an animated sprite ). I tried doing this with objects, And it did work, but was hard to mantain/customize so I scrapped it.
The physics engine is broken ( for what I wanted to use it for atleast, which even works in scratch btw ), but setting aside the dragging, it doesn’t work with triangles/circles, as when I tried stacking these types of objects it would glitch into the ground. Also, using the “Kinematic” mode didn’t work either, causing a similar problem where by moving an object into a wall, it would just fall through… Objects coudn’t collide with eachother. I’ve had similar problems, where by giving an object both the platformer and platform behaviors, and having them jump, the player would usually fall through ( while yes I could try to make my own custom code for this using the physics2D behavior, I already had problems setting it up in the first place, and It wouldn’t be easy to make custom jumping/throwing logic ).
Blockbench is for lowpoly modeling, not just “minecraft/blocky” models. I am not gonna show an example here, just search up someone like Brandon James Greer and you’ll see what I am talking about.
Used blender like once ever, so I didn’t know it wasn’t embeddable ( although kinda obvious since it doesn’t work in a web browser to my knowledge ).
GDevelop is fully open source, but I like not having to switch too often between tools often ( which is why I use Piskel instead of Aseprite despite owning it ), and it would be easier to have an easy way to fix/change animations.
I already said they could post new/unfinished builds in a subscription service, or something similar in order to gain monetization for their work. I am not sure how the AI would give them monetary gain, when people can just pull up a better AI ( GPT or Copilot ) and not pay for any credits.
Please try to stay on topic ‘The Push for AI needs to stop’, people are getting way off topic 
